Comments on: NY Times on Unscrupulous Job Search Firms http://www.manasclerk.com/blog/2009/11/05/ny-times-on-unscrupulous-job-search-firms/ Because the killer app is us. Sun, 05 Feb 2012 06:16:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Forrest Christian http://www.manasclerk.com/blog/2009/11/05/ny-times-on-unscrupulous-job-search-firms/#comment-29613 Forrest Christian Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:55:13 +0000 http://www.manasclerk.com/blog/?p=1041#comment-29613 For those you don't know the difference, recruiters work for the hiring company and normally are paid a percentage of the annual salary for successfully filling a position, usually in payments over several months to ensure that the hiree works out. I should also point out that my old business model was to charge a percentage of my coaching clients' increase in salary. Since people were doubling their salaries after talking to me, that seemed reasonable. Clients don't like it, for whatever reason, but it's still very different than saying "pay me up front". "I'll pay only when you succeed for me" is better. For those you don’t know the difference, recruiters work for the hiring company and normally are paid a percentage of the annual salary for successfully filling a position, usually in payments over several months to ensure that the hiree works out.

I should also point out that my old business model was to charge a percentage of my coaching clients’ increase in salary. Since people were doubling their salaries after talking to me, that seemed reasonable. Clients don’t like it, for whatever reason, but it’s still very different than saying “pay me up front”. “I’ll pay only when you succeed for me” is better.

]]> By: Alicia Parr http://www.manasclerk.com/blog/2009/11/05/ny-times-on-unscrupulous-job-search-firms/#comment-29611 Alicia Parr Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:42:53 +0000 http://www.manasclerk.com/blog/?p=1041#comment-29611 Well, Forest, based on about 10 years of experience with recruiting and a fair amount of career counseling, I can confirm that paying large sums to a firm to "find you a job" is a fools errand for many reasons. A reasonable fee for resume editing and suggestions on useful job search tactics is worth it for those needing the help, but you're better off sharing your resume with a reputable staffing firm that gets its fees from the company where they make a successful placement. Just be sure to be clear that they do not forward your resume anywhere without your permission. If you find that an agency ever do that, that would not be a reputable agency. More often than not, you're better off getting your resume to a hiring manager through a contact you have within the company. Well, Forest, based on about 10 years of experience with recruiting and a fair amount of career counseling, I can confirm that paying large sums to a firm to “find you a job” is a fools errand for many reasons. A reasonable fee for resume editing and suggestions on useful job search tactics is worth it for those needing the help, but you’re better off sharing your resume with a reputable staffing firm that gets its fees from the company where they make a successful placement. Just be sure to be clear that they do not forward your resume anywhere without your permission. If you find that an agency ever do that, that would not be a reputable agency. More often than not, you’re better off getting your resume to a hiring manager through a contact you have within the company.

]]> By: Angel http://www.manasclerk.com/blog/2009/11/05/ny-times-on-unscrupulous-job-search-firms/#comment-29610 Angel Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:06:07 +0000 http://www.manasclerk.com/blog/?p=1041#comment-29610 Finding a good job can be pretty troublesome. Especially when you have high expectations. Here are some tips that helped me land the job of my dreams: * Plan out your CV, if you've never done a CV before, this is the time to learn. * Think about all the jobs you are qualified for. This may lead to discovering additional jobs you could land. * Look for jobs in every possible source : internet, newspaper, radio and other media. Ask your friends that have similar jobs if there may be an opening in their company. * You need to be proactive about this. Don't just email them, make sure to call the HR department to have them confirm your resume. Finding a job is pretty much a job in itself and it's all about how well can you market your abilities. Finding a good job can be pretty troublesome. Especially when you have high expectations.

Here are some tips that helped me land the job of my dreams:

* Plan out your CV, if you’ve never done a CV before, this is the time to learn.
* Think about all the jobs you are qualified for. This may lead to discovering additional jobs you could land.
* Look for jobs in every possible source : internet, newspaper, radio and other media. Ask your friends that have similar jobs if there may be an opening in their company.
* You need to be proactive about this. Don’t just email them, make sure to call the HR department to have them confirm your resume.

Finding a job is pretty much a job in itself and it’s all about how well can you market your abilities.

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