Comments for Requisite Reading» Requisite Reading http://www.manasclerk.com/blog Because the killer app is us. Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:46:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 Comment on Hard Work Is A Necessary But Not Sufficient Cause of Success by Forrest Christian http://www.manasclerk.com/blog/2010/02/27/hard-work-is-a-necessary-but-not-sufficient-cause-of-success/comment-page-1/#comment-29747 Forrest Christian Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:46:23 +0000 http://www.manasclerk.com/blog/?p=1212#comment-29747 Alicia, the story was about a journey being destroyed through no fault of her own. So if the journey is the point, it's even more tragic. There are many ways this can happen. Most common are social causes. Yes, some people do indeed beat the social milieu and achieve the journey they want. But some people also win the Powerball. Most people don't. You can work hard and do everything right, yet still end up with nothing but disrespect and contempt from your world. Which means that it's best to be on a different journey. A friend of mine was an internationally ranked tennis player. He had to leave competition but he framed it as God wanting him to do something different. He framed his life journey to success wasn't even "obey my God and live that out being the best tennis player I can be" but rather "obey my God and live that out wherever he leads me". He had to do no major reframing of his life journey when his professional career was cut short because it was only a means to an end, and not the end in itsef. Had he framed success as "being the best tennis player I can be" he would be a failure. Success is still defined as achieving a goal, but his goal is to grow closer and closer to his God, continually changing to be more godly. While this isn't something most people want out of life, the idea of framing your journey so that it is above all circumstances seems wise, and can probably be done in a variety of ways. Alicia, the story was about a journey being destroyed through no fault of her own. So if the journey is the point, it’s even more tragic.

There are many ways this can happen. Most common are social causes. Yes, some people do indeed beat the social milieu and achieve the journey they want. But some people also win the Powerball. Most people don’t. You can work hard and do everything right, yet still end up with nothing but disrespect and contempt from your world.

Which means that it’s best to be on a different journey.

A friend of mine was an internationally ranked tennis player. He had to leave competition but he framed it as God wanting him to do something different. He framed his life journey to success wasn’t even “obey my God and live that out being the best tennis player I can be” but rather “obey my God and live that out wherever he leads me”. He had to do no major reframing of his life journey when his professional career was cut short because it was only a means to an end, and not the end in itsef. Had he framed success as “being the best tennis player I can be” he would be a failure. Success is still defined as achieving a goal, but his goal is to grow closer and closer to his God, continually changing to be more godly. While this isn’t something most people want out of life, the idea of framing your journey so that it is above all circumstances seems wise, and can probably be done in a variety of ways.

]]> Comment on Hard Work Is A Necessary But Not Sufficient Cause of Success by Mary McQueen http://www.manasclerk.com/blog/2010/02/27/hard-work-is-a-necessary-but-not-sufficient-cause-of-success/comment-page-1/#comment-29744 Mary McQueen Wed, 03 Mar 2010 19:56:28 +0000 http://www.manasclerk.com/blog/?p=1212#comment-29744 In the words of Flannery O'Connor, you said a mouthful when you said that, brother. Your words are comforting. And true. In the words of Flannery O’Connor, you said a mouthful when you said that, brother.

Your words are comforting. And true.

]]> Comment on Hard Work Is A Necessary But Not Sufficient Cause of Success by Alicia Parr http://www.manasclerk.com/blog/2010/02/27/hard-work-is-a-necessary-but-not-sufficient-cause-of-success/comment-page-1/#comment-29741 Alicia Parr Tue, 02 Mar 2010 16:58:00 +0000 http://www.manasclerk.com/blog/?p=1212#comment-29741 Hm. I see my snarky fake tags about the above comment containing preachy sounding content got absorbed into the ether. Oh well. Hm. I see my snarky fake tags about the above comment containing preachy sounding content got absorbed into the ether. Oh well.

]]> Comment on Hard Work Is A Necessary But Not Sufficient Cause of Success by Alicia Parr http://www.manasclerk.com/blog/2010/02/27/hard-work-is-a-necessary-but-not-sufficient-cause-of-success/comment-page-1/#comment-29740 Alicia Parr Tue, 02 Mar 2010 16:55:59 +0000 http://www.manasclerk.com/blog/?p=1212#comment-29740 Sometimes the lessons we need to learn in this life are different from what we originally suppose they are. What is success? Fully owning one's path with an openness to continued learning about life is about as close as one can get. Said differently, success is being the best you you can be without impeding others from doing the same. Plus the whole destination vs. journey as the goal dialectic. Sometimes the lessons we need to learn in this life are different from what we originally suppose they are.

What is success?

Fully owning one’s path with an openness to continued learning about life is about as close as one can get. Said differently, success is being the best you you can be without impeding others from doing the same. Plus the whole destination vs. journey as the goal dialectic.

]]> Comment on Why Recession Grads Make Less Over Lifetime: Money is a Proxy for Ability by Dr Johan du Toit http://www.manasclerk.com/blog/2009/12/07/why-recession-grads-make-less-over-lifetime-money-is-a-proxy-for-ability/comment-page-1/#comment-29734 Dr Johan du Toit Sun, 14 Feb 2010 13:13:46 +0000 http://www.manasclerk.com/blog/?p=1161#comment-29734 Warren's "latest" article on http://globalro.org , and several others, is an exercise in elegance/beauty/challenge... I trust that the "leakings" of his vastly exercised, van Gogh-esque insights will continue to seep to 'our side' of the universe. Warren’s “latest” article on http://globalro.org , and several others, is an exercise in elegance/beauty/challenge…
I trust that the “leakings” of his vastly exercised, van Gogh-esque insights will continue to seep to ‘our side’ of the universe.

]]> Comment on Why Recession Grads Make Less Over Lifetime: Money is a Proxy for Ability by Forrest Christian http://www.manasclerk.com/blog/2009/12/07/why-recession-grads-make-less-over-lifetime-money-is-a-proxy-for-ability/comment-page-1/#comment-29733 Forrest Christian Sat, 13 Feb 2010 21:27:04 +0000 http://www.manasclerk.com/blog/?p=1161#comment-29733 It's always great to hear from the other hemisphere, Johan! OBTW, some of what Warren Kinston has developed about the framework of Interacting for Benefit (how careers progress) shows how this getting stuck happens for the kids coming out today. It’s always great to hear from the other hemisphere, Johan!

OBTW, some of what Warren Kinston has developed about the framework of Interacting for Benefit (how careers progress) shows how this getting stuck happens for the kids coming out today.

]]> Comment on Why Recession Grads Make Less Over Lifetime: Money is a Proxy for Ability by Dr Johan du Toit http://www.manasclerk.com/blog/2009/12/07/why-recession-grads-make-less-over-lifetime-money-is-a-proxy-for-ability/comment-page-1/#comment-29732 Dr Johan du Toit Sat, 13 Feb 2010 12:54:20 +0000 http://www.manasclerk.com/blog/?p=1161#comment-29732 Forrest I appreciate and savour your timely insight(s). If modern social cycles (~10 years for crashes; ~ 50 years for Kondratieff waves) are too long term for most people to "see" we are doomed to continue behave ignorantly... ...it reminds me of the data-point about gold-fish having attention spans of a few seconds. Now we know why “Those who do not learn from history are bound to repeat it”. Forrest

I appreciate and savour your timely insight(s).

If modern social cycles (~10 years for crashes; ~ 50 years for Kondratieff waves) are too long term for most people to “see” we are doomed to continue behave ignorantly…

…it reminds me of the data-point about gold-fish having attention spans of a few seconds.

Now we know why “Those who do not learn from history are bound to repeat it”.

]]> Comment on Imaginist, Systemicist, and Getting Myself Wrong by Why There Is Never Going To Be A Silver Bullet – Requisite Reading — Requisite Reading http://www.manasclerk.com/blog/2010/02/03/imaingist-systemicist-and-getting-myself-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-29731 Why There Is Never Going To Be A Silver Bullet – Requisite Reading — Requisite Reading Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:10:51 +0000 http://www.manasclerk.com/blog/?p=1197#comment-29731 [...] I’ve already talked about my own problems in this area. Because my dominant approaches to action / decision-making are Imaginist and Systemicist, I do great in ill-defined, murky, “don’t know where to go” problems. It’s Moses leading the Israelites to a promised land they’ve never seen, not Joshua leading them to conquer it, much less David leading them as king. Even the fact that I frame this in mythical story makes it repulsive to many people who use other decision approaches. [...] [...] I’ve already talked about my own problems in this area. Because my dominant approaches to action / decision-making are Imaginist and Systemicist, I do great in ill-defined, murky, “don’t know where to go” problems. It’s Moses leading the Israelites to a promised land they’ve never seen, not Joshua leading them to conquer it, much less David leading them as king. Even the fact that I frame this in mythical story makes it repulsive to many people who use other decision approaches. [...]

]]> Comment on Greybox Really Is a Popup Window That Doesn’t Suck by Jochen Hung http://www.manasclerk.com/blog/2008/03/03/greybox-really-is-a-popup-window-that-doesnt-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-29730 Jochen Hung Wed, 10 Feb 2010 11:56:27 +0000 http://www.manasclerk.com/blog/2008/03/03/greybox-really-is-a-popup-window-that-doesnt-suck/#comment-29730 Dear Forrest, I have now switched to Lightbox JS (http://www.huddletogether.com/projects/lightbox2/), which has its own problems, but works altogether better than Greybox in my opinion... Thanks for your help, Jochen Dear Forrest, I have now switched to Lightbox JS (http://www.huddletogether.com/projects/lightbox2/), which has its own problems, but works altogether better than Greybox in my opinion…
Thanks for your help,
Jochen

]]> Comment on Greybox Really Is a Popup Window That Doesn’t Suck by Jochen Hung http://www.manasclerk.com/blog/2008/03/03/greybox-really-is-a-popup-window-that-doesnt-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-29729 Jochen Hung Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:32:36 +0000 http://www.manasclerk.com/blog/2008/03/03/greybox-really-is-a-popup-window-that-doesnt-suck/#comment-29729 Hi Forrest, thank you very much for your answer! I tried both suggestions, but the problem is still the same: the images do not load the first time I click on the thumbnail. If I try it a second time, it all works fine... Any other ideas? Best, Jochen Hi Forrest, thank you very much for your answer! I tried both suggestions, but the problem is still the same: the images do not load the first time I click on the thumbnail. If I try it a second time, it all works fine…
Any other ideas?

Best,
Jochen

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